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Post by metalo on Feb 1, 2005 23:02:31 GMT -5
behold The crazy idea thread!
Heres one. If Hami spawns mito's for each person and pet
why not right before it hits the 50% marker go into the core and suicide at hami himself with a group of twilight resers ready to do their stuff? Do you get a mito if your dead? Its, crazy i know, but that's my idea
Secondly: I know that it does worthless damage (supposed to be extreame i only have it one slotted now) we get enough radation controllers we can get a bunch of crazy melee'ers to rush the hami and have the rads do constant fallout's uponthe dead bodies. Sounds nuts, huh?
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Post by metalo on Feb 1, 2005 23:06:21 GMT -5
Ooh and in another idea
Can vengence be stacked? Anyone know if multiple stacking will get us to our damage caps? If so, what slotting would be necessary? We only need one volunter dead body to do vengence upon (imagine 4 controllers with 6 slotted vengence targeting on dead comrade)
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Post by Balshor on Feb 2, 2005 1:17:08 GMT -5
Vengence can be stacked if it's two different heroes using the power (can be same corpse). However, it only affects teammates, so getting the benefits of Vengence for the entire raid might prove a bit tricky. I figure heroes should use it if they can, but I don't think it's particularly worth planning around (especially since the +acc and +def parts of the buff will be essentially worthless).
The problem with fallout is that most of the mitos are flying up in the air out of its blast radius. Additionally, getting the body in just the right spot might be tricky. Additionally, I don't imagine a whole lot of heroes actually took this power....
These are good thoughts -- I'll keep them in mind in the event that our primary plans fail. Keep thinking creatively!
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Post by FireCurtain on Feb 3, 2005 11:54:24 GMT -5
I know when i have died against AVs and used Rise of the phenix (misspell i know). I have caused them to be disorented, something we could try if people happen to died close enough to the mito is to use the self rez, as long as it wont aggro anything else.
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Post by Balshor on Feb 3, 2005 11:58:19 GMT -5
Good thought, and worth a shot. Probably too much trouble to teleport a dead body near a mito to make happen, but if meleers are trying to attack mitos, any that are defeated would be right there next to them. Who cares about probable double debt when you're already maxed out anyway?
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Post by FashionSense on Feb 3, 2005 12:04:36 GMT -5
Rise of the Phoenix does an AoE damage + disorient attack. I believe it is now auto-hit. I don't know how big the disorient magnitude is.
Also it makes you invincible for a short time.
Hmm, if the invincible time period is enough to activate phase shift...the AoE draws aggro, especially if used by a tank.
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Post by Balshor on Feb 3, 2005 12:18:27 GMT -5
Makes you invincible for a short time? Sweet...didn't know that. Is it long enough to fire off taunt, then phase shift? Even if it does no significant damage or disorientation to a mito (perhaps because you're out of range), that would be a good way to make them waste a few shots.
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Post by FashionSense on Feb 3, 2005 19:29:36 GMT -5
I just tested RotP against Hamidon and it didn't seem to protect me at all. It's possible that the invincibility is 100% resistance to typed damage rather than intangible like phase shift. I have used it before against normal enemies and didn't take any damage. Or maybe it's just a really short time and I didn't notice.
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